You've thought about it, at the very least.

[A slow, deliberate setting down of his coffee mug, in such a way that the click of the ceramic on the bar seems amplified.]

I was a detective, remember? I sat in on enough police interrogations to know how people react when you hit them directly in the guilt.

[The ones still capable of feeling guilt, anyway.

It's reassuring, really, that whatever else this Ren has been through, he's still one of those people.]

But yes. Joker lived - though not without his share of bruises and drugging, and they went after Shido, as he deserved.