No, actually, Ren is starting to feel like there might be a dark conspiracy involved. If nothing else, there's no way an Akechi shohld be that sanguine about what he's describing.

He isn't sure it's a good idea to argue about it, though.

"Either way, it's kind of hard to have this talk about the fake people when you shut down every time I try to get at the issues. It's not your fault, I'm just saying I don't know how we're gonna do it."