"It's really easy to say that, but when you're in the situation..." He remembers when he was little and in that wreck, reaching out to Aigis for help. He hadn't recognized her then. "Nobody wants to suffer when they die." And if Ren was going to suffer it was like being asked to throw yourself on the hypothetical trolley tracks.

He can't talk Ren out of hating himself though. "Curling up in a dirty alley isn't gonna unkill those people either. Would you be up for going somewhere to eat?" Ren looked pale, and like he hadn't left his own apartment until now, so Makoto had an obligation to make sure he was alright physically even if he couldn't fix Ren's problem.