[NETWORK] Death of the old world, let the rule of strength begin!

[warped_ken_amada]

[Soon after a dead Falcon appears in the Velvet Room...]

I have observed this dimensional crossroads and I have been disappointed. So many of you have been blessed with great individual power, the ability to change the world, and you all squander it.

Wake up! The world you are living in is based on nothing but lies! The "rules" and "morality" are not necessary things to live in society, but cowardly artifices used by weak men to exploit others despite their lack of strength! The root of everything, what allows you to take action, what arbitrates conflicts, is power. Even the modern societies of lies are based upon it! They rely on the collective power of the masses to uphold their rotten structure! But we are beyond that.

A new age is beginning. The old world is dying, and a newer, fairer world dawns! The collective power of the masses which has allowed such perversion is weaker than our own individual, gifted power! Break the shackles of the old societies! Tear them apart! Rebuild them anew, under the rule of strength, as they were always meant to be! You who are gifted with strength, take your righftul places as rulers!

Or oppose me if you wish, but be aware that I am in a league of my own. Your robotic friend thought himself strong, and look what happened to him. In the end, you are my inferiors. Keep that in mind, and we should get along fine.

Comments

a reply to his own post made at night, several hours after the post itself

[willowandoak]

[ Unusually for Ren, this is posted as one large message and not a series of short ones. ]

ok so to sum up what ppl have said

ideas so far
- get lotus amadas name (ideally from falcon)
- phoenix and renee use their swords that can destroy regenerating souls (the sword needs to strike the killing blow)
- lotus's three strikes ur out option (last resort, potential danger)

ideas that are probably bad
- actualization (maruki isnt cooperating, and phoenix said based on his experience it wont work)

people who have volunteered to fight, if it comes to that
- me
- glitch
- frog
- phoenix
- mockingbird
- hannei

please lmk if u have smth to add or correct. this is just a list of day 1 things, well come up with more/make this stuff better. thanks everyone

[rookandhound]

well fight

[willowandoak]

thanks man

[rookandhound]

anyone know if this mid-tier rpg villain can even fight outside of the metaverse

[seekerofjustice]

I don't have much in the way of suggestions or advice, but I will share my experience with you. He won't even give you any degree of serious thought unless you are 'strong' or 'smart' enough, it seems.

[willowandoak]

?????
an akechi isnt smart enough for him?
thats how u really know smth is wrong with this kid
that doesnt surprise me overall tho. sounds a lot like what he was talking abt in his evil manifesto

[seekerofjustice]

I wasn't thinking clearly in the moment. The moment I saw Falcon-san, I was overcome by it. Nothing but the idea of facing the one that killed him, tearing them to the ground.

So he was correct, I was neither strong enough nor intelligent enough to even compare to him in battle.

I've paid the price for it. Please, do not rush into this. You need to go in with a plan and with the best preparations you can manage.

[fogboundcrow]

I'm wary of using Lotus as a method. What if it affects the other two Kens, who are innocent?

We need to make sure it's foolproof before we take such a large risk.

We should also see what the other two Kens think. They would know what to expect.

[willowandoak]

it wont
lotus and i have established already that you cant give someones name by knowing an alt world version of them
as in i tried it and it failed despite lotus hearing the exact syllables he wanted
therefore if someone gave this amadas name the others would be fine

[fogboundcrow]

Falcon knows the other Ken with similar abilities, though.

How do we ensure it only affects one and not the other? I don't know enough about Lotus personally, but I hope you can understand my skepticism.

[fogoflies]

I believe I can persuade our 'host' to break the shackles impeding me. If he wishes to protect his charges from undue suffering, he would be wise to act swiftly.

It is bold of this boy to claim that gods are mere constructs, as if he is not a child of man using borrowed power.

My power is my own.

[herewardbound]

Right? Like I have actual factual Lucifer Morningstar on fucking speed dial and the little shit's out here with 'gods are fake'.

It'd be hilarious if we weren't all in very serious danger. Like someone gave nuclear launch codes to a toddler.

[fogoflies]

It is doubtful our host would permit someone foreign to 'our' realities.

As I understand it, you have left one plane of existence behind for another, far beyond your original world.

[willowandoak]

sounds good on the surface
but then instead of amada we have you and your games

[fogoflies]

I already gave the power to two children here with inhibitions in place.

My full power is not something I wield as an aggressor. It was always my intention to observe and allow humanity to decide its own fate.

It just so happens that this child made the fatal mistake of upsetting someone I have great personal interest in.

[fogbornphantom]

God-like entities are often defeated with the power of the bonds fostered by a Wild Card.

Nyx, Izanami, and others still... The connections we form hold great power, especially in a world such as this, where cognition is king.

In a roundabout way, this situation is driving people to set aside misgivings and collaborate towards thwarting a shared enemy.

It may be wise to use that to our advantage, but only fully realized connections can fully empower Wild Cards in situations like these. Every Rank 10 bond matters.

[willowandoak]

[ Ren glares at his phone for a moment before responding to this one. It's a mark of how serious the situation is that he doesn't tell Crow what he thinks about bonds... which proves Crow's point, in a way. He chooses to ignore that. ]

i hate to say it but we cant afford to overlook anything, even "bonds"
but this msg probably only makes sense to wild cards
like. how does it help, what do we need to do

[fogbornphantom]

Strengthen our connections with one another.

And I mean sincerely. It likely won't work if it remains shallow and superficial.

Social Links are measured by the depth of one's understanding and connection with the other person.

[thedevilinyourdetails]

im here

[willowandoak]

good to hear it
(ó ì_í)=óò=(ì_í ò)

A day or two after the parent post went up... (treat as toplevel)

[vessel_ken_amada]

I've went to see him. I can confirm that he has powers similar to mine. He's even more dangerous than I am, with more skill over his abilities from more experience, and no fear of losing whatever humanity he has left.

Here's some initial advice if it comes to a fight, which I'm afraid is likely:

- Unless you have some sort of super special ability (in which case list it so we can plan around it), if you do not have at least Falcon-san's current combat level, you are DEAD WEIGHT. Don't join the fight. Train until you reach that level if you really want to participate.
- Even if you do reach that level, you still are not ready. You need to up your defense by whatever means necessary. Not just by strengthening it during a fight - althrough that's mandatory - but through training, through items, through anything. Every little bit will count: if you can't survive one of his big hits, you're also DEAD WEIGHT.
- Once we reach that minimal basis, we can consider fighting himm. NEVER FACE HIM ALONE. We'll need numbers to compensate his greater might.
- He'll ruthlessly try to exploit any kind of weaknesses, and has a large arsenal to do so. If, even for a moment, no one is able to fight, IT'S OVER. He can absorb Shadows, which as you may be aware gives a fate worse than death.
- PHYSICAL ATTACKS ARE USELESS. No matter the kind. It doesn't matter if it's a sword, a gun, a thermonuclear explosion, or a black hole. ANYTHING THAT'S NOT MAGIC WILL NOT WORK.
- He absorbs or repels every element. Either use non-elemental attacks like Megidolaon or have things that suppress or pierce elemental resistances.
- He has regeneration and infinite stamina. We'd lose a battle of attrition.
- He's extremely likely to deploy his barrier, and we need to do something about it. At full strength, it blocks any attack. I don't yet know how to deal with it. I'll work on it.

This is only a first quick batch about what's on top of my head. It's far from complete, and on top of that he likely has abilities I don't even know of. I'll keep working on something more complete.

[fruitknife]

I'm gonna stay the fuck out of this. Don't feel like getting repeatedly bodied, and my attacks're all physical anyway.

But.

All three of you share a common weak spot, if there's any way to make him think about her.

[rosemaudite]

I can help people find things that bring down elemental resistances if necessary.

[willowandoak]

[ Shit.

No, okay, they'll figure it out. Even if that's... wow. ]

thanks for the info i appreciate it dude
a few questions:
-is all this true outside the cognitive world
-when u say "weakness" is that just literal or do u mean like metaphorical stuff in our heads too
-about the no physical attacks. u can probably only guess since none of us have experience w/ this, but do u think a magic sword would work? specifically a sword from hell designed to eliminate regenerating souls
-would u be willing to train with us so we have an idea of what were up against. specifically stuff like the barrier, fighting someone with endless stamina

latecomer is late

[paysforall]

In regards to especially 'surviving one of his big hits,' I have a few questions:

1. Do these powerful abilities affect all planes at once (IE both the cognitive world and the real)?
2. Does he perceive both planes at once? Does he exist on multiple planes at once?

To be clear: I have access to a wider variety of Frequencies than most others here, which expands the range of planes of existence I have access to beyond that of anyone else I know of in this place. Strategically, it makes more sense for me to focus on DODGING his hits, rather than SURVIVING them, but only if such a thing is possible in the first place.

Additionally, if his perception is not omnipotent, there are prepatory steps I can take which could help to open any emotional chinks he has wider. This applies even if I'm not capable of contributing actively to combat for one reason or another. To summarize: I have an ability that allows me to inflict a sort of mental static on someone that causes them to be drawn into their own negative emotions in a downward loop. This could potentially shake his confidence, but it could also make him more aggressive, assuming that it even works.

Thank you for your assistance, Amada-san. If you're uncertain about any of these questions, that's fine. I can provide as much further clarification as you need, or we could simply perform a test run.