[NETWORK] Death of the old world, let the rule of strength begin!

[warped_ken_amada]

[Soon after a dead Falcon appears in the Velvet Room...]

I have observed this dimensional crossroads and I have been disappointed. So many of you have been blessed with great individual power, the ability to change the world, and you all squander it.

Wake up! The world you are living in is based on nothing but lies! The "rules" and "morality" are not necessary things to live in society, but cowardly artifices used by weak men to exploit others despite their lack of strength! The root of everything, what allows you to take action, what arbitrates conflicts, is power. Even the modern societies of lies are based upon it! They rely on the collective power of the masses to uphold their rotten structure! But we are beyond that.

A new age is beginning. The old world is dying, and a newer, fairer world dawns! The collective power of the masses which has allowed such perversion is weaker than our own individual, gifted power! Break the shackles of the old societies! Tear them apart! Rebuild them anew, under the rule of strength, as they were always meant to be! You who are gifted with strength, take your righftul places as rulers!

Or oppose me if you wish, but be aware that I am in a league of my own. Your robotic friend thought himself strong, and look what happened to him. In the end, you are my inferiors. Keep that in mind, and we should get along fine.

Comments

A day or two after the parent post went up... (treat as toplevel)

[vessel_ken_amada]

I've went to see him. I can confirm that he has powers similar to mine. He's even more dangerous than I am, with more skill over his abilities from more experience, and no fear of losing whatever humanity he has left.

Here's some initial advice if it comes to a fight, which I'm afraid is likely:

- Unless you have some sort of super special ability (in which case list it so we can plan around it), if you do not have at least Falcon-san's current combat level, you are DEAD WEIGHT. Don't join the fight. Train until you reach that level if you really want to participate.
- Even if you do reach that level, you still are not ready. You need to up your defense by whatever means necessary. Not just by strengthening it during a fight - althrough that's mandatory - but through training, through items, through anything. Every little bit will count: if you can't survive one of his big hits, you're also DEAD WEIGHT.
- Once we reach that minimal basis, we can consider fighting himm. NEVER FACE HIM ALONE. We'll need numbers to compensate his greater might.
- He'll ruthlessly try to exploit any kind of weaknesses, and has a large arsenal to do so. If, even for a moment, no one is able to fight, IT'S OVER. He can absorb Shadows, which as you may be aware gives a fate worse than death.
- PHYSICAL ATTACKS ARE USELESS. No matter the kind. It doesn't matter if it's a sword, a gun, a thermonuclear explosion, or a black hole. ANYTHING THAT'S NOT MAGIC WILL NOT WORK.
- He absorbs or repels every element. Either use non-elemental attacks like Megidolaon or have things that suppress or pierce elemental resistances.
- He has regeneration and infinite stamina. We'd lose a battle of attrition.
- He's extremely likely to deploy his barrier, and we need to do something about it. At full strength, it blocks any attack. I don't yet know how to deal with it. I'll work on it.

This is only a first quick batch about what's on top of my head. It's far from complete, and on top of that he likely has abilities I don't even know of. I'll keep working on something more complete.

[fruitknife]

I'm gonna stay the fuck out of this. Don't feel like getting repeatedly bodied, and my attacks're all physical anyway.

But.

All three of you share a common weak spot, if there's any way to make him think about her.

[rosemaudite]

I can help people find things that bring down elemental resistances if necessary.

[willowandoak]

do u grow any, by any chance

[rosemaudite]

...Not at the moment.

I'll get Noir to help me with it. Unlike the paprika, this would be a completely new project rather than expanding the capabilities of something that already exists, so it may take some time.

[willowandoak]

i think people are hoping to move before too long
not like tmrw
but no one wants to have this fucken. time bomb. in the middle of the room
but if u think the two of u can get it done it would be rly useful

[rosemaudite]

I make no promises, but we can try. In the worst case they'll be available for another time.

[willowandoak]

thanks, appreciate the help
tell noir too

[willowandoak]

[ Shit.

No, okay, they'll figure it out. Even if that's... wow. ]

thanks for the info i appreciate it dude
a few questions:
-is all this true outside the cognitive world
-when u say "weakness" is that just literal or do u mean like metaphorical stuff in our heads too
-about the no physical attacks. u can probably only guess since none of us have experience w/ this, but do u think a magic sword would work? specifically a sword from hell designed to eliminate regenerating souls
-would u be willing to train with us so we have an idea of what were up against. specifically stuff like the barrier, fighting someone with endless stamina

[vessel_ken_amada]

- Yes.
- Literal.
- I'd lean towards no, but still worth investigating. There's maybe some way we can tweak the delivery of the attack to have the effect trigger anyway.
- Of course, I even was going to propose it. I'll need a few days to get ready though. For the training to be worth it, I'd need to use my full power, and I... I've never done it before. So I need to get a handle on it first.

[willowandoak]

phoenix and renee are the sword ppl, ill bring it up to them
a few days is fine for the training, we cant do anything abt the other amada before that anyway
ppl might be asking u a lot of stuff for the next little while so be prepared for that
thanks again, wed have been fucked w/o this info

[herewardbound]

Yeah these aren't peerless magical blades that can cleave stars in half or whatever, they're otherwise unremarkable weapons made of angelic steel. If this jackass is immune to them, I doubt they'd do much. The wounds they do make bypass supernatural regeneration, basically, so if you stab something with ordinarily perfect regeneration with them...

Thank you, Ken, for your help, by the way. I know we're not exactly close, but I know this can't be easy for you.

latecomer is late

[paysforall]

In regards to especially 'surviving one of his big hits,' I have a few questions:

1. Do these powerful abilities affect all planes at once (IE both the cognitive world and the real)?
2. Does he perceive both planes at once? Does he exist on multiple planes at once?

To be clear: I have access to a wider variety of Frequencies than most others here, which expands the range of planes of existence I have access to beyond that of anyone else I know of in this place. Strategically, it makes more sense for me to focus on DODGING his hits, rather than SURVIVING them, but only if such a thing is possible in the first place.

Additionally, if his perception is not omnipotent, there are prepatory steps I can take which could help to open any emotional chinks he has wider. This applies even if I'm not capable of contributing actively to combat for one reason or another. To summarize: I have an ability that allows me to inflict a sort of mental static on someone that causes them to be drawn into their own negative emotions in a downward loop. This could potentially shake his confidence, but it could also make him more aggressive, assuming that it even works.

Thank you for your assistance, Amada-san. If you're uncertain about any of these questions, that's fine. I can provide as much further clarification as you need, or we could simply perform a test run.

[vessel_ken_amada]

Hello Shrike-san,

I'll admit that your questions are complicated, but I'll do my best to answer them.
It's hard for me to know for sure what you mean by "planes" here, but here is what I can say for sure:
- He's certainly far from ominiscient, but he can perceive anomalies in space-time itself.
- His most powerful attack is a reality erasure attack.
- He is made from the raw stuff cognition comes from in the first place.

Also, I agree that your emotional manipulation ability, if it works in the first place, is dangerous. It could be a decisive advantage, or it could be our end. Despite all our preparations, our best hope is probably to rely on his arrogance until it's too late for him to turn the tides.

[paysforall]

I imagine that you've probably picked up enough from other Akechis to know about the distinction between Mementos and the 'real world' - that's an example of different planes. They occupy the same 'space' in parallel without touching each other.

Based on your responses, I would say that his abilities are somewhat similar to mine but on a significantly larger power scale. Noise - the root of the emotional manipulation ability I mentioned - is also the 'raw stuff' of cognition, or perhaps the dryer lint of it which can then be formed into new shapes.

And I am certainly more than familiar with the threat of Erasure.

[Ken might note the capital.]

[vessel_ken_amada]

Oh, I see what you mean.

Well, for example, although remember that ultimately these are only speculations based on my own abilities:
- He can travel between Mementos and the real world without going through the normal entrances or exits.
- When he is in Mementos or the real world he can't normally perceive what's going on in the other "plane".
- However I don't make any guarantee he won't be able to perceive someone from one plane trying to affect him in another plane since he may see and follow the dimensional anomalies.

[paysforall]

I was more considering the possibility of dodging attacks by rapidly switching planes than I was trying to impact him from them. Generally - with the exception of Erasure - it's impossible to directly affect one plane from another, at least in my experience. Mementos is further separated from the 'real world' than the Underground, which is where I spend most of my time back in my world, but people in the Underground are invisible and intangible to the people in the 'real world.'

Better to never get hit by an attack at all than to get hit and barely survive, and have to spend so much energy preparing to survive the next attack that you never get to make an attack of your own.

[vessel_ken_amada]

I think it could work to dodge his attacks, but be careful: he can also quickly switch between planes. If he figures out your trick... well, you don't want to be caught alone in a plane with him.

But you sound like you have experience with this kind of thing. I'll trust your judgement.

[paysforall]

Oh, I would have to work on the speed of my transition between planes in order to use it effectively that way. It's just a possibility right now. But I didn't want to waste time on something that definitely wouldn't work.