[network][locked from warped_ken_amada and any character under 10] anti-evil baby task force

[willowandoak]

[ The following initial paragraph is added on December 19th, following Zenkichi's arrival. ]
NOTICE TO ALL NEWCOMERS: SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT AMADA, THE PLANNING, AND THE SITUATION EXCEPT IN THIS POST. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, ASK THEM HERE AND SOMEONE WILL ANSWER THEM. FOR FUCK'S SAKE *DON'T ASK PUBLICLY WHAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT IN LOCKED POSTS*


hey everyone (except amada and kiddos)

in case any of you aren't aware of the situation, one of the ken amadas killed falcon a couple days ago, then made a network post threatening the rest of us. so obv we need to neutralize him

i made my own post to collect ideas abt how to do that. this is part 2, and i'm gonna update this one with new info so pls save it and come back to it


THINGS WE KNOW

the most important new info is that if amada is killed, igor won't bring him back. he'll be dead forever. so killing him is back on the table in theory, though how to do that/whether we can do that is a question mark

i sent frog to ask igor & co some questions. they were p forthcoming by their standards. if anyone didn't know, they've said they didn't bring amada in. frog learned some interesting new stuff, too, such as the death thing. also: igor has less control over amada than he does over the rest of us, which we kinda already knew. when frog asked who brought amada to the velvet room if not igor, he said "he brought himself (|||❛︵❛.)" and then he didn't answer any followup questions such as, so how many other people can sense this place from the outside, and can they get in too

igor also confirmed that he would be willing to temporarily lift the restrictions on sagiri's powers to deal with amada

amada caused non-fatal harm to someone who went after him, so murder is not his *only* weapon. he can also do broken bones (* ^ ω ^) he also made it so that bone couldn't be healed, so it's a more serious issue than a lot of us are used to. that said, he's still threatened to kill any and all of us, and after falcon we should be taking that seriously

another amada wrote up this info for combat. READ THIS if you think you're likely to see combat with the psycho amada, and maybe even if you don't think so. DO NOT VOLUNTEER TO FIGHT until you've read it


IDEAS

lotus has said that he may be able to exert control over amada by receiving his name. he can't guarantee that it'll work tho

lotus also has another possible trick up his sleeve, more dangerous to everyone including him. frog and i know abt it tho so we can be thinking abt it, and if all else fails, we can all discuss it then

like i said above, sagiri is willing to use his god-level powers, though he hasn't explained what he would be doing w them

if igor agrees to unleash kira as well, kira might be able to possess amada and lower his defenses, and help get the rest of us out of danger

aragaki has brought up using amada's mother as a weak spot

we may be able to create rumors in sumaru that work to our advantage if we fight him there

shrike may be able to use psychic abilities to affect amadas state of mind. this is unpredictable and risky, probably best used if things are already looking grim


PREV IDEAS THAT NOW LOOK LESS GOOD

phoenix and renée have brought up swords that block regeneration. but they would have to strike a killing blow with the sword. to start with, other amada thought that might be impossible, and we also know now that a killing blow will be fatal no matter what weapon

maruki's actualization probably wouldn't work, and if it did it wouldn't stick, according to phoenix who has been actualized


FIGHTING

we're fucked if we don't at least get ready for a fight. it's gonna be rough (READ OTHER AMADA'S WRITEUP) but we've heard some thoughts

other amada is willing to train with us, starting in a few days

crow believes that bonds will be important in making wild cards stronger for upcoming battles

rose is going to look into items that pierce elemental resistance, including growing new plants w noir. the plants might or might not be ready in time

given the new info, i've cut some people from the fight list. i can vouch for the strength of most people who were in my palace. anyone else, i don't know as well. really think abt whether you're up to standard before volunteering. the current list of people who're up for a fight is as follows

-me
-frog
-glitch
-phoenix
-spades
-crow
-joker
-magpie
-falcon
-vampire ren
-briar
-renée
-hasegawa
-suou
-raven
-wild
-karasu
-amada

as well as the other amada, who is on another level than the rest of us

to stay on the list, train with not-psycho amada and work on defensively-oriented strats. once amada is ready to train, we'll set up a schedule


WHAT WE NEED RN (besides training + collecting items)

input on the ideas. we have a lot of "maybe it'll work"s and no "this will definitely work"s, so we need to decide on which maybes to try first and which to hold off on as a plan B, plan C, etc

to add/correct/remove ideas or volunteer/unvolunteer, reply to this post. if u wanna talk to me in person, i'll be taking care of leblanc for the next several days while frog goes on a research binge. after that, go to leblanc anyway and if i'm not already there, frog will summon me


the situation is shitty, but i don't think anyone here wants to sit around and let someone threaten our lives. if nothing else, amada seems like the kind of guy who would fuck up a little kid if they got in his way, and we have little akira and little goro wandering around. we've come together for less, some of us have killed gods, so we can come together and get rid of this threat now

Comments

[pancakeboy]

I'm in.

[What choice does he have, really?]

[willowandoak]

ill add u to the list
thanks

[willowandoak]

@Lotus btw ive had a question abt the name thing
wanted to confirm that even if u get psycho amadas name and it works, u wont have power over the other amadas

[constellationist]

If it worked like that, I'd already have half the real population's name, so many of them are the same person. Even the one who shares his powers enough to be a useful training opponent wouldn't be in trouble.

It sounds like the problem one is ruled by whatever entity is sharing his body, rather than just a conduit for it. Might need that name or names as well to ensure anything sticks.

The thing is, it needs to come from someone who knows him. I doubt he'll be stupid enough to fork it over himself. Anyone who's seen one of his memory tapes, if he had one, or had a deeper than surface-level conversation might be able to help.

[gorobo]

As if there ever was any question.

I'm in.

[By god, he's going to have his revenge on that megalomaniac.]

[willowandoak]

added, thanks

[herewardbound]

I'm probably going to fucking hate this

but I could talk to maruki if we need bodies. he's not a monster, he'll

probably help if people ask him without starting a fight

but yeah asking him to actualize Doomada won't work. It draws on your own willingness to embrace it for strength. If you want it, it's ridiculously hard to break. If you don't... it's a lot easier, and Persona-users are already resistant to it. That said, his capacity to manipulate local cognition... might be a godsend.

[willowandoak]

ig were not rly in a position to turn down help
or firepower
if ur up for it then id appreciate it
just make sure he understands fighting Only unless hes fucking w doomadas head specifically

[vessel_ken_amada]

About prioritizing, anything that may even have the slightest chance of ending this without a fight (like the name thing) is vastly preferable to having to fight. I'll do my utmost to make the fight option as viable as possible but I can't guarantee we'll actually get our chances above 0%. So if we can avoid that it'd be great.

[willowandoak]

i agree tbh i would love it if we could avoid a fight
but betting on that and not prepping for a fight is a great way to get everyone slaughtered
best case scenario we get ready, theres no fight, were all stronger than we were

[linkclickakira]

I know we are not on...the best terms. I hate this more than u tbh
But I am willing to play back up. Or quick teleportation. or a plan z.

And since Igor is removing nerfs...maybe there's a chance

[willowandoak]

[ ... ]

a chance of u doing what
"maybe theres a chance" isnt a plan we can think abt

[seekerofjustice]

I know I failed once, but I would like to lend my assistance to all of you. I will spend all of the necessary time training and preparing. Believe me, I will not make the same mistake again.

[willowandoak]

[ The reply is delayed a bit, while Ren consults with Goro on how to say this nicely. If you think this series of messages doesn't sound entirely like Ren, that's why: Frog was looking over his shoulder the whole time. ]

i know u have strong feelings abt what happened, so do a lot of us. and i know u would be committed. but u arent a good fit for the team
amada stressed the need for defense and focus during combat, and youve shown recently that you act without thinking in dangerous situations and rush ahead alone
you would endanger yourself. and the rest of us would be in danger as we tried to look out for you
there are other ways to help besides fighting tho
it would be rly useful to have someone else searching for items to penetrate elemental resistances
we have several cities to look through and just one person doing it rn

[vampirethief]

I'm in.

I have Satanael as a persona, which is my strongest persona and while I can still be killed as a vampire, I am a little tougher to kill than normal humans.

[He can explain Satanael's stats if needed.]

[willowandoak]

[ Interesting. ]

questions:
-how strong is satanael? like as a gauge, satanael vs shadow shido, how would that go? does it have any noteworthy abilities?
-how are u tougher to kill? faster, more resilient, healing...?
-also do u have a codename, if u get on the list i dont wanna put "that version of me thats a vampire"

[dweebtective]

I realize we aren't on especially good terms, but I have an idea that may prove useful.

If this is a cognitive world, then the collective cognition of everyone present may hold significant sway.

In Sumaru City, rumors become reality, and I've already checked. Cognitive versions of various rumormongers as well as the Kuzunoha Detective Agency exist.

If you can spread a rumor surrounding this menace and then lure him to Sumaru, you may be able to use it to your advantage.

You know each other better than you know me, so I'll leave it to you how you use this information.

I just thought it might help.

[willowandoak]

[ ...ugh. He hates everything about this. Fuck. ]

weve seen cognition affect the world a lot already
and weve heard abt the sumaru rumor thing, raven has messed around w it a little
but were short on details. give them to us now

[tricksterviolet]

Can I help you with fighting him? I haven't fought in a while, but I'm stronger than I was before I came back here. I'm also a Wild Card, so I can use a lot of different Personas.

[willowandoak]

"havent fought in a while" is a problem but u can fix it w training. its the rest of it i have questions abt

-"stronger than i was" is p vague. how strong? whats the strongest enemy youve fought and won against? have u fought a god? have u fought maruki? could u take out shadow shido in ur sleep? thats the kind of strength were looking for (fighting gods or maruki not actually required, just that level of power)
-do u have strong magic personas and if so do they use almighty? do u have defensive buffs for us? or do u mostly have phys attackers? these arent necessarily dealbreakers, u might be able to talk to igors attendants about fusion, but we need to know

6-7 hours after his talk with Phoenix

[takutomaruki]

I’ve only now managed to sift through the recent posts regarding the situation, and I have some thoughts to contribute. I understand my presence here isn’t particularly welcome at the moment but judging by the information shared so far, it’s clear that Amada-kun has reached a point where no lines remain uncrossed.

-Several of you are correct—belief is the foundation of Actualization. Without it, the changes I impose can and will reverse. As much as I would like to help the boy trapped beneath that violent exterior, I cannot risk attempting this alone. Defending myself from him is another matter entirely, but I don’t recommend relying solely on this as a strategy.
-Katsuya-san’s idea to exploit Sumaru is worth further investigation. Through my work in the Lab and experiments with Azathoth, I could be able to manipulate collective cognition on a considerable scale and I would have tried it in other circumstances but its best to communicate it first. I have some theories about how this might apply here, but the finer details require discussion in person.

-Aragaki san's idea is also a wonderful approach. I brought this up earlier—though no one seemed particularly inclined to comment—that Amada-kun likely has a human tether we can exploit. His mother appears to be a critical connection. Judging by my experience with other Marukis and their cognitions, I could use that tether to influence his mental state. The more I understand about their relationship, the better I can construct something to reach him. I have...only made vague concepts so far which don't seem to last long but the more I know about a patient, the more I can read the patterns behind their thinking and how they might mirror the person closest to them. Amada-kun's mother might actually help save him from himself. I also refuse to trust the details of this process to an open network.

Going back to our personas and items- I have infinite storage tucked away in my coat and the depths of my mind (I can also manifest infinite snacks? It feels like a running joke at this point haha)
This accelerates when I am in my Lab- I don't know if that's as helpful however.

Through my time in mementos I believe I get the concept of the elemental attacks you might be referring to. I try not to use magic until strictly necessary but judging from the nature of Tyrant Chaos, Piercing Strike(?) and Megidolaon- they seem to be the moves you guys need. I have some buffs and debuffs as well which amplify those attacks- and a small healing spell through a tentacle but it might not be as strong. Fighting isn't my strong suit here either but I have learnt to polish some of my combat skills.

I am truly sorry to hear whoever must have been on the recieving end of this Amada-kun's lethal and non-lethal attacks. The case of broken bones and amputation is something I have dealt with as well- I could ask Azathoth to regenerate their limbs as well. There are some drawbacks like constant hunger and your energy draining away until you are hit with an actual healing spell (Credit to Midnight for helping me refine this process.)

That’s all I have for now. If you still need my help—and frankly, if you don't I will stick to my original plan of defending myself—then I suggest we set aside our grievances and meet face-to-face.
Can't exactly deny the need for a decent cup of coffee nowadays.

[willowandoak]

[ Ren has had his own conversation with Phoenix. He's ready to tell Maruki he'll be a liability, until the mention of Amada's mother catches his eye. And he would love to dismiss that, too, frankly, since it's Maruki. But.

Ugh. ]

my coffee sucks
come to leblanc

[vessel_ken_amada]

I've been thinking... do you all happen to have a method of flight? Because he does fly, and you probably don't want to sit uselessly on the ground while he bombards you from unreachable heights.

[willowandoak]

[ ...of course he fucking does. ]

not yet
well figure smth out
spreading the rumor "have u heard murderer ken amada cant fly in sumaru" or using flying personas or smth
@Team ideas?

[fogbornphantom]

[After his chat with Katsuya, a message arrives. It's not locked, so anyone can see it.]

I sat down with Suou-san, and he understands his transgressions. I made sure to emphasize how deeply the vast majority have been wronged or otherwise failed by the police, not to mention adults at large.

He understands, and he accepts that it is his place to listen and not lead. He's willing to read any terms you may provide and surrender all authority to the rest of us.

locked to katsuya

[willowandoak]

@Katsuya Suou meet me in buchiko square

hey look it's this guy

[paysforall]

Ah, it seems some things have occurred again in my absence.

I will add one point of clarification: It is definitely possible for being of sufficient power to find this place. Not that it's immediately relevant, but as some long-time residents of this place are aware, my prolonged absences are usually due to my employer calling me back for varying lengths of time. Suffice it to say, he's a being on approximately the same level as Igor. Luckily, he's not violent, certainly not to this extent - 'disinterested asshole' is the best description of his personality.

I have a few thoughts of my own, but they're unfortunately things that are limited to myself and my abilities, so I'll pose them directly to Volunteer-san in a bit.

[willowandoak]

fr dude every time u leave its smth new and horrible
im this close to stapling u to the velvet room wall
i almost forgot abt the thing w ur boss actually. since he hasnt caused any issues
... still dont like that ppl can see us in here
do u want on the combat team or are u thinking of a support role

[butterflyaffect]

The last time someone broke into the Velvet Room, I watched a monster rip my sister in half and cast my father into the depths, helpless to do anything to stop it.

Never again.

[willowandoak]

ive added u, thanks

[willowandoak]

[ Just after Ren adds his new, emphatic paragraph to the beginning of his post, he sends this message to everyone who's agreed to be involved in some capacity. ]

@Team if anyone makes another comm post abt whats happening pls put another warning at the top of it like what this post has now
we dont need any more situations where a newcomer posts to the entire network saying "hey! whys everyone talking so much about a killer ken amada? whats that about haha"
im p sure i got to hasegawa this time before amada saw it but who knows

locked to sunflowren

[lakebrat]

You know, I'd be prepared to give them a chance, if they didn't so thoroughly live down to my expectations.

[nyxavatarmakoto]

Normally I'm not gung ho about this, but I could try to use my shadow form to help take him out

[normally he's not a fan of killing either but if it prevents a greater number of deaths from occurring then that's what has to happen]

[willowandoak]

that could be rly useful thanks dude
could u give a lil more detail abt what u can do maybe
or if u need to figure it out maybe talk to the other amada abt it?

[unit_8910_wolf]

[Get rid of this threat huh?]

Oh look, that PSA really is something huh?
...

Well, regardless- seeing from the comments here, I would like to offer my assistance. If the team would like to have me.

[willowandoak]

are u gonna tell me it didnt need to be said (￢_￢)
+ can u give some info abt ur skillset and what ur offering

locked from katsuya, backdated

[willowandoak]

[ During his conversation with Suou in December, Ren posts a series of messages pinging everyone who's on the team at that time. ]

@Team suou has been suggested as a team member
crow vouched for him and ive talked to him and made sure he understands he cant be a dick
but a lot of us have opinions on cops so i want everyones okay before i let him in
if you think having him on the team will damage your concentration, clearheadedness, ability to fight, willingness to use support moves, *anything* that can fuck us up then say so
dont lie to me and say its ok bc youre trying to be self-sacrificing. the last fucking thing we need is a wrong idea about how the team will handle itself in a fight. if that makes you feel called out, reconsider your answer

[cybermask]

he's a loser, but he's got a good heart.

[wicked_plan]

Hey. If you need more firepower still count me in. IK I just got here but me and my team have taken down both Yaldabaoth and Adam Kadmon. I'm down to kick another God's ass esp if they're an active danger + have killed already.

[willowandoak]

sounds good thanks
whats ur codename

[willowandoak]

go here for info on amadas nature
i also have more news
spades did some recon of his own and managed to suss out a unique power of amadas
its called tyrants aura which is kinda funny actually
but what it does is
firstly when he starts it up it inflicts a new ailment called dread on everyone hes fighting
dread is like fear but harder to cure and bypasses fear immunity
to get rid of it u need a multi-status heal that can cure fear but also other stuff
it also makes all skills much more draining to use + makes it harder to act, so we can do less stuff in any given time period
amada in contrast can do more stuff for every one of us who has dread
if you dont attack him for a little bit, you get hit with an auto debilitate + renewed dread ailment

spades might come back later with more info
he contacted me just after he was done with his thing. with more time to process he might be able to get more
he was also v clear that we need more support which i had kinda been thinking anyway
+ with our numbers we can afford to designate several people as support
so im looking for volunteers, ideally five or six
preferably wild cards, since wild cards can get personas dedicated purely to healing, making us stronger, making him weaker, etc
if youre not a wild card but you still think you could do well in that role im willing to listen

[cybermask]

as much as I'd hate it I can switch to support, and I'm a wildcard so

[the_ken]

Hello Drake-san. I have experience fighting an avatar of Nyx that I hope will be useful to everyone here, and I have trained hard the past few weeks to meet my counterpart's minimum requirements for starting training with him. Would you please let me join the team? Thank you.

[willowandoak]

ykw. sure
no one else ur age should get any ideas abt joining
but u and the other amada have a stake in this
speaking of. u all need codenames
"amada" and "the other amada" are getting to be ambiguous

[thedevilinyourdetails]

please put me down as support
we need more of it if we want to. live

[willowandoak]

thanks thats reassuring
will u get support skills the same way u did the other thing
+ the way u kicked my ass that time lol